tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070355695530434450.post1024266032461160351..comments2024-03-14T04:16:20.472-07:00Comments on In Socrates' Wake: Op-Ed Response to Kathleen ParkerMichael Cholbihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02012523929044363216noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070355695530434450.post-30628627618258348192011-10-09T05:18:37.216-07:002011-10-09T05:18:37.216-07:00I agree on everything except the term "market...I agree on everything except the term "marketplace of ideas". Widespread as it may be it is still fundamentally flawed. Markets are unequal. The richer you are the more power you have. Those without resources have no power. I do not want a marketplace of ideas. I want ideas to compete through the means of argument and reasons in a setting that is maximally conducive to truth and discussion. Markets are not such settings. Markets often reward manipulation and domination.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070355695530434450.post-16108493375735845512011-10-08T09:18:40.660-07:002011-10-08T09:18:40.660-07:00Michael -
In an earlier draft, I included a note...Michael - <br /><br />In an earlier draft, I included a note about her misreading (if she even read it) of _Academically Adrift_. I also went into a bit more detail on the unhelpful ACTA studies. I deleted most of it, unfortunately, because the paper had me constrained to 450 words. <br /><br />But yes - you're totally right about her misreading of AA. I doubt she read it - she likely just read some of the stats and then a quote or two from Arum and Roska. <br /><br />In short: she doesn't get it.Chris Panzahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01656795570624714115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070355695530434450.post-42995489529324349572011-10-08T09:09:38.228-07:002011-10-08T09:09:38.228-07:00Thank you.Thank you.Jan Priddy, Oregonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06107172381368544145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070355695530434450.post-69124422288550958712011-10-08T08:48:56.002-07:002011-10-08T08:48:56.002-07:00Chris,
Excellent piece.
I don't know Parker&...Chris,<br /><br />Excellent piece.<br /><br />I don't know Parker's article, but it seems almost impossible to read Academically Adrift and end up with her conclusion. Sure, colleges, their faculty, and their administrations take some shots in the book. But so do parents, students, state legislatures, etc. That's the whole point of the disengagement compact (I take you to be referring to it obliquely in your final two paragraphs): that lots of parties have silently conspired to undermine efforts at student learning. Does she not get that?Michael Cholbihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02012523929044363216noreply@blogger.com