tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070355695530434450.post7185767713400991126..comments2024-03-14T04:16:20.472-07:00Comments on In Socrates' Wake: From the Wall Street JournalMichael Cholbihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02012523929044363216noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070355695530434450.post-70471321126164287202009-04-29T15:30:00.000-07:002009-04-29T15:30:00.000-07:00You make a good point, Anonymous. No one is going...You make a good point, Anonymous. No one is going to be impolitic enough to publicly publish such a list - certainly not me. You indirectly suggest a better method than simply axing those not ranked in the PGR - placement statistics. If a program is consistently under-placing then I think it is an open question whether its admission of graduate students is for the good of the students or for the fiscal good of the school. Someone does indeed need to teach at the community colleges and liberal arts schools (like my own, which does not appear in the PGR of course, being solely undergraduate). And we'd all do well to remember that the market being what it is, those who do teach in these institutions are likely to be very good philosophers. But there remains the problem - when there are too many of us, are some programs complicit in the oppression of students entering graduate school with a naive understanding of the market?Beckohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16074821953202236848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070355695530434450.post-57865054986963407222009-04-28T06:29:00.000-07:002009-04-28T06:29:00.000-07:00There is another option and that is to train PhD's...There is another option and that is to train PhD's (and MA's, for that matter)not to become professors, but to enter the work force in some capacity that would help organizations perform better.John Alexanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16388418182862297211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070355695530434450.post-85627013128570246562009-04-27T15:53:00.000-07:002009-04-27T15:53:00.000-07:00I've seen Becko's suggestion a number of times, mo...I've seen Becko's suggestion a number of times, mostly on Leiter's site, but I've never seen a list of proposed schools to receive the ax. Nor is it clear to me what could be done to compel these schools to close their program. One suggestion might be to drop every program that isn't ranked by the PGR. However, it's not as if people at non-PGR ranked programs don't get jobs, in fact a number of these programs do quite well in placing their students. After all, someone has to teach at community colleges or be the lone professor in the department of humanities for BFLouisiana. <br /><br />-MAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8070355695530434450.post-78440182742167255842009-04-27T14:27:00.000-07:002009-04-27T14:27:00.000-07:00Here is another idea: instead of all the Ph.D. pro...Here is another idea: instead of all the Ph.D. programs admitting fewer students, how about fewer Ph.D. programs? Maintain the quality and the academic rigor and freedom that come with tenure and close down programs in which it is fairly clear that the graduate students are merely used as cheap labor.Beckohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16074821953202236848noreply@blogger.com